[Ren just smiles, because he's played games like this before. Maybe the stakes aren't so high—he isn't gambling with his life, not the way he did with Akechi—but there's still a risk and that's when Ren plays his best.]

It wasn't part of our curriculum. Where I'm from, heroes are just something you see in a movie, or someone who climbs a tree to save a cat.

[And that's why he's a phantom thief instead.]